Has anyone taken the time to investigate the actions taking place in North Central Pa. The area know as "the Wilds" is again, soon to be invaded by the oil & Gas industry. They came into the area like locust about two years ago flashing big money around and leasing up thousands of acres of mineral rights. problem is no one really had in-depth info on what they are about to do. Although its great that we have found a way to extract gas from this large source, people know little of what comes with it.
I have been accused of worse! I'm not a "NIMBY" and I'm not a "Drill Baby Drill" advocate. I feel we shoulds cross all our T's and dot all our I's before we go rushing headlong into the Greed game known as the Gas & Oil business. I know I will be labeled an envoromentalist nut if I say that there are few people in this country that has a clue as to the energy situation and the enviromental damage its development entails.
Just as the right-wing will bash global warming without knowing the truth, the same is true about the energy problems of this country.
It's time to wake up and take notice whats been going on around us. Why are the gas companies so hyped up on drilling the Marcellus shale play when the stored reserves are nearly full. Has anyone been aware there is a natural gas glut forming around the world? Natural Gas is not the silver bullet that everyone has been hoping for so we can continue to run our SUV's and Hummers on, and to generate all our electric power. It has its good side, grant you. But with some indepth investigation on the energy problems facing us, you will begin to see the truth through the smoke screen we've been fed by the powers that be. I would suggest doing some reading on the term "Peak Oil" and the problems we face in the near future.
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i meant no disrespect. I was just asking a question. Maybe it was a little blunt of straightforward but that is just how I am. I didn't mean any disrespect.
I appreciate the honest reply
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This is one of the things I'm talking about! lets get the gas but be smart & safe about it at the same time. Ibeleive more people should be looking into this Marcellus shale gas play before it gets out of hand. tell me.."how much do YOU trust the oil companies"?
It's amazing how little people are concerned about this marcellus gas play. I guess after all is said and done, and the water is poluted and the forest looks like an industrial zone and natural gas prices are through the roof because everything has been switched to Nat Gas at the insistance of the gas and oil lobbies. Then (after it's too late) the people will cry and cuss about it!
Are we STILL asleap at the wheel?
what makes it so bad? Sure, some trees get chopped down and some deer get displaced. Gas prices go up but thta is no different than oil prices going up but at least it will be going to more local workers than over seas, I don't see, with the likes of the EPA involved in everything, that water will be polluted to the point of making everything a waste land.
But I am eager to learn about why you are so against it.
what makes it so bad? Sure, some trees get chopped down and some deer get displaced. Gas prices go up but thta is no different than oil prices going up but at least it will be going to more local workers than over seas, I don't see, with the likes of the EPA involved in everything, that water will be polluted to the point of making everything a waste land.
But I am eager to learn about why you are so against it.
That is the assertion made by Dr. Al Armendariz, Asst. Professor of Engineering at Southern Methodist University
In 2005, at the urging of Dick Cheney, former Halliburton CEO,and later Vice-President of the United States)swayed Congress to exempt fracing from the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) as part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005. In 2001, Cheney's energy task force report "touted" benefits and ignored consequences. His office was "involved in discussions about how fracturing should be portrayed in the [EPA] report."Halliburton earns about $1.5 BILLION annually from hydraulic fracturing. (Ibid)
The oil and gas industry is the only industry in America that is allowed by EPA to inject KNOWN hazardous material-unchecked-directly into or adjacent to underground drinking water supplies. EARTHWORKS-Hydraulic Fracturing of Oil and Gas Wells
Scientific American DRILL FOR NATURAL GAS, POLLUTE WATER
The natural gas industry refuses to reveal what is in the mixture of chemicals used to drill for the fossil fuel.
...documents obtained by ProPublica show that the EPA negotiated directly with the gas industry before finalizing those conclusions, and then ignored evidence that fracing might cause exactly the kinds of water problems now being recorded in drilling states. Buried deep within the 424-page report are statements explaining that fluids migrated unpredictably-through different rock layers, and to greater distances than previously thought-in as many as half the cases studied in the United States. The EPA identified some of the chemicals as biocides and lubricants that "can cause kidney, liver, heart, blood, and brain damage through prolonged exposure." It found that as much as a third of injected fluids, benzene in particular, remains in the ground after drilling and is "likely to be transported by groundwater."
Cathy Behr says she won't forget the smell that nearly killed her. An emergency-room nurse in Durango, Colo.'s Mercy Regional Medical Center, Behr was working the April 17 day shift when Clinton Marshall arrived complaining of nausea and headaches. An employee at an energy-services company, Weatherford International, Marshall, according to Behr, said that he was caught in a "fracturing-fluid" spill. [Fracturing chemicals are routinely used on oil and gas wells where they are pumped deep into the ground to crack rock seams and increase production.] The chemical stench coming off Marshall's boots was buckling, says Behr. Mercy officials took no chances. They evacuated and locked down the ER, and its staff was instructed to don protective masks and gowns. But by the time those precautions were enacted, Behr had been nursing Marshall for 10 minutes--unprotected. "I honestly thought the response was a little overkill, but good practice," says Behr, 54, a 20-year veteran at Mercy. A few days later, Behr's skin turned yellow. She began vomiting and retaining fluid. Her husband rushed her to Mercy where Behr was admitted to the ICU with a swollen liver, erratic blood counts and lungs filling with fluid. "I couldn't breath," she recalls. "I was drowning from the inside out." The diagnosis: chemical poisoning. The makers of the suspected chemical, Weatherford, told NEWSWEEK that they aren't sure if their brand of fracking fluid can be blamed for her illness
...The worker was released. But a few days later Behr lay in critical condition facing multiple organ failure.
To save Behr's life, her doctors needed to know the chemicals involved but they were only given vague information. The information is considered proprietary and Halliburton threatened to pull all its products out of Colorado rather than give up the recipe information Behr's doctors needed to save her life.
Weeks later, after Behr was recovering, her doctor finally learned the details of the chemicals involved but he is sworn to secrecy.
The oil and gas industry claims that hydraulic fracturing has never contaminated a well. They claim the public is misinformed. They claim information about the chemicals they use would only "confuse and frighten the public."
On October 31, 2007, the U.S. House of Representative's Oversight and Government Reform Committee began hearings investigating fracing.
Hearing statements by scientists and national defense council analyst, other experts and landowners found:
...gas companies not only injected diesel fuel into the fracking liquid as a part of their drilling, but also injected benzene, toluene, ethyl benzene and xylene into the liquid which in turn contaminated drinking water, causing serious physical ailments to residents.
...we have identified...245 different chemicals, 92% of which have adverse health effects. ~Dr. Theo Colborn, Ph.D.
President, Endocrine Disruption Exchange link
H.R. 7231will close the loophole that exempts hydraulic fracturing from regulation under the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA).
The bill, H.R. 7231, would reinstate basic federal standards for hydraulic fracturing under the SWDA and enable the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to protect drinking water supplies...
H.R.7231 Coauthors:
U.S. Congresswoman Diana DeGette, CO - Sponsor
Congressman John Salazar, CO
Congressman Maurice Hinchey, NY
this is just one area of the things that concern me!
if you need more just look online.
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Well thanks Willard. Glad you noticed my 'attitude" How is what I posted an attitude? Nore like my opinion.
I loved you references.
I am sure I could find thing from the right to refute it.
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Has anyone taken the time to investigate the actions taking place in North Central Pa. The area know as "the Wilds" is again, soon to be invaded by the oil & Gas industry. They came into the area like locust about two years ago flashing big money around and leasing up thousands of acres of mineral rights. problem is no one really had in-depth info on what they are about to do. Although its great that we have found a way to extract gas from this large source, people know little of what comes with it.
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