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here is a story about the Delco Sheriff. This is Jim McGinn's brother. It says in the article that 4 brothers started the business. Does Jim McGinn still own, or has he ever owned part of this business? Doesn't Aston AA, etc. use this business for their photos? Does the commish vote on photographers, etc? That would be interesting to know. I'm sure Jim McGinn doesn't know a thing about this type of thing, but was wondering if he is an owner and receives any money from business. Guess I could ask to see his financial statement that is required by the State.

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I find this difficult to believe:

"Joseph McGinn also said he never derived any income from the business after becoming sheriff, but it never occurred to him that using the family business to perform work paid for by the sheriff’s department was a potential conflict of interest until it was pointed out to him in late 2008."

He and his four brothers found the company and he is the one that handles all of the photography for the council. One can assume he did not volunteer his time, film or services. Why would it not occur to him that once he was sheriff that using his family business would reflect poorly on him?

It is possible that his daughter provided her services at a reasonable rate. Wouldn't it have made sense to bid the work out? If only to prove that his company offered the best rate? Since he did not do this it ends up looking like another case of keeping it in the family.

Should be easy enough to find out the names of the other brothers involved in the family business. Interesting post Forty, thanks.
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Why would it not occur to him that once he was sheriff that using his family business would reflect poorly on him?
I started reading the article and admit that my first thought was nepotism. After reading the whole article though, I could see it happening without it being shady in their minds. Since it appeared that they've had that business for quite some time before he became sheriff, I could see her just taking the calls and business as she always had. Obviously, in hind sight, I'm sure she wishes she hadn't. In my life, I wish I had caught earlier all the things that were 'obvious' to me later on.
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the daughter is going to pay it all back - Daughter of county sheriff agrees to pay back $5,652 - The Delaware County Daily Times : Serving Delaware County, PA(DelcoTimes.com)

That makes it all OK right. The problem will go away now.
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Not for me. Why is she paying it back? Makes it seem like there was something wrong to begin with. If, in fact, there is no issue why return the funds?
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Time out folks. Joe McGinn was involved in politics long before he became County Sheriff. Remember, he wanted to run for State Rep. He was involved in Chi in the Rep party, etc. etc. Nepotism? Yes. That is how it works. Do you think his company would have gotten any of that work if he weren't involved in politics? I guess we will never know, but I am sure it didn't hurt his chances.

You can bet that the state ethics board is looking into this situation. Hell, if this were Penn Delco some people would be on death row by now!

I am so tired of "no bid" professional contracts. Bullshit! We pay for these no bids. Make it a bid situation and watch how much money the County and municipa;ities save. Problem is, politicians and their families own business that fall under "professional service". Wouldn't it be good practice to find out if we were getting a good price for the service?

There is probably more to this than we know. However, If Gil Spencer says there is nothing, there must be nothing.

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I started reading the article and admit that my first thought was nepotism. After reading the whole article though, I could see it happening without it being shady in their minds. Since it appeared that they've had that business for quite some time before he became sheriff, I could see her just taking the calls and business as she always had. Obviously, in hind sight, I'm sure she wishes she hadn't. In my life, I wish I had caught earlier all the things that were 'obvious' to me later on.
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Like C and C Music Factory said: "Things that make you go hmmmm"

And oh yeah, I threw it back to C and C!

Seriously though, if nothing was wrong, don't pay back your earned money. They think by paying it back it makes it look like they are good, however, by paying it back make more eyebrows raise.

Here is what you say: Pictures were taken by a pro photographer. No rules were broken and no ethical issues were involved. The photographer just happens to be the daughter of a politician and said politician happens to be President of the company that took the pictures. Sound OK to anyone? Would that make it ok? Pay back the cash or not, it smells like shat.

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Not for me. Why is she paying it back? Makes it seem like there was something wrong to begin with. If, in fact, there is no issue why return the funds?
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Time out folks. Joe McGinn was involved in politics long before he became County Sheriff. Remember, he wanted to run for State Rep. He was involved in Chi in the Rep party, etc. etc. Nepotism? Yes. That is how it works. Do you think his company would have gotten any of that work if he weren't involved in politics? I guess we will never know, but I am sure it didn't hurt his chances.

You can bet that the state ethics board is looking into this situation. Hell, if this were Penn Delco some people would be on death row by now!

I am so tired of "no bid" professional contracts. Bullshit! We pay for these no bids. Make it a bid situation and watch how much money the County and municipa;ities save. Problem is, politicians and their families own business that fall under "professional service". Wouldn't it be good practice to find out if we were getting a good price for the service?

There is probably more to this than we know. However, If Gil Spencer says there is nothing, there must be nothing.
For the most part, I agree. No-bid contracts should not be allowed.

I don't doubt that the original work was given because of his republican ties. That's not nepotism (favoritism due to family or close friends in positions of power). It's not right but it's not nepotism. My point was that the current situation was probably not nepotism because they had been doing the work long before he became sheriff. If he had become sheriff and subsequent to that she was given more work, that would be nepotism. Minor point but I can see how they could miss the ramifications.

I'm not excusing the way work was originally given. I'm not a fan of no-bid contracts. But in many ways, I agree with Gil Spencer on this one. I've seen far worse go unquestioned.

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Not for me. Why is she paying it back? Makes it seem like there was something wrong to begin with. If, in fact, there is no issue why return the funds?
According to the Gil Spencer column today, she was advised to pay back the money. My guess is that her lawyer suggested it.

I think it is important to note that business is often directed to others that are political connected, whether it is legal services, insurance, accounting, promotional items, and yes, even photography. It transcends political affiliation too. If the dems were in power, it would be the same way. Look at Philly, it is there too and has been for years. I am not saying it is right, but it is a fact of life. One just hopes that the county got the best bang for their bucks. Knowing the people involved, I think they did. Joe McGinn is an honorable man and if you are close to him and are objective, you will probably agree.
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If you are close to him, I doubt you can be objective.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am. However, I am objective enough and up front that I would tell Joe McGinn that this should have been handed differently because it had the makings of a conflict of interest, even if it actually did not in reality.
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You must be kidding me!!! Seriously.

He is President of a company that got money from a county that he is an elected official of.

Kind of like an Aston Commish that got money from a sewer authority that got money from contracts that were awarded from the same township he/she were in charge of.

I'm just saying!

Lets call a spade a spade here folks. Politics at work. Right, wrong, or indifferent, it is what it is!

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According to the Gil Spencer column today, she was advised to pay back the money. My guess is that her lawyer suggested it.

I think it is important to note that business is often directed to others that are political connected, whether it is legal services, insurance, accounting, promotional items, and yes, even photography. It transcends political affiliation too. If the dems were in power, it would be the same way. Look at Philly, it is there too and has been for years. I am not saying it is right, but it is a fact of life. One just hopes that the county got the best bang for their bucks. Knowing the people involved, I think they did. Joe McGinn is an honorable man and if you are close to him and are objective, you will probably agree.
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Delco criminals will be focus of new TV show
Published: Thursday, February 25, 2010
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CLIFTON HEIGHTS — If its model in Calhoun County, Ala., is any indication, “Delaware County’s Most Wanted” television show is destined to be a northern hit.

“We’re the No. 1 show on the station here in Jacksonville,” Calhoun County Chief Deputy Sheriff Matthew Wade said Wednesday of the program that started six years ago and had captured 1,706 fugitives as of this week.

That’s the high hope of all those behind Delco’s show — coordinated through Delaware County Sheriff Joseph McGinn’s office — once it hits Comcast Channel 190 Tuesday at 7 p.m. and Thursday at 10 a.m., sometime in April.

McGinn, addressing members of the Chester Heights Business Association and showing no sign of camera shyness Wednesday night, spent equal time plugging the show and soliciting potential advertisers.

“The plan is for the program to be independent of taxpayers’ dollars,” McGinn told the crowd of more than 50 people gathered at the Bungalow Inn.

Each 30-minute show costs about $1,200 to produce, according to Sgt. Deborah O’Berg, fondly known as “Deputy Deb” and who has an active role in the production. The programs will be taped on location in Media.

To date, they’ve screened the program to other groups for content feedback, but Wednesday was the first time they were courting potential advertisers to fund it, she said.

“We want to put out a product that the people will want to watch,” O’Berg said, noting that fugitives will range from accused killers to deadbeat dads, and moms.

“We are hopeful that by bringing this information directly to our neighbors, we can get these people off our streets and behind bars, where they belong,” McGinn said.

Each week, they will focus on 18 from among the county’s list of about 6,000 fugitives.

Among them: Angel Sladek of Ridley, who is wanted on a bench warrant; Benjamin L. Dendy of Philadelphia, wanted for a probation violation stemming from indecent assault offenses; Walter Kirkner of Lower Chichester, wanted for payment of $101,265 in child support; and John Washington of Philadelphia, wanted for failure to report to serve his sentence on robbery and conspiracy offenses.

“There are some who say why even show deadbeat dads? Because they are costing us a lot of dough,” McGinn told the group, referring to support programs funded by tax dollars.

Introduced to the welcoming crowd by CHBA member Bill Wassell and Clifton Heights Mayor Joseph T. Kelly Jr., McGinn made quick mention of the recent controversy involving a photography business he founded and now run by his daughter who has obtained no-bid county work.

“We broke all those stories in the beginning of his week just to get attention,” McGinn quipped, then immediately invited anyone with questions to talk to him after the presentation.

“I don’t have anything to hide,” McGinn said.

McGinn said he got the idea for the cable program while attending a sheriffs’ conference in Florida. At first he wanted to slip out of the room, but a few minutes into the presentation by members of the Calhoun County Sheriff’s Department, he said he was hooked.

“I really think this will add some value to what we do, in a lot of ways,” McGinn said.

In his seventh year as sheriff, he said people might be surprised to know the number of those don’t know his role, or the overall role of county government.

“We want this to be a service to the community,” he said. Not only will they be putting the faces out there of the people they want to bring in, there will be other segments on security and safety tips.

Joining McGinn as volunteer co-host will be KYW Radio personality Kevin Scholla, also the voice of Villanova basketball.

A preview was shown of the first installment, which appropriately opens to the lyrics of “One way or another ... we’re gonna get ya’, get ya’, get ya’, get ya’.”

Guest on the debut show is Delaware County District Attorney G. Michael Green. McGinn said he would like to invite police chiefs from around the county to appear on the show, beginning with Clifton Heights Chief Walt Senkow, who was in the audience Wednesday night.

In a telephone interview, Wade said he remembers meeting McGinn at the conference. He described McGinn as “a go-getter.”

He said others in his area — Calhoun County was once home to baseball legend Ty Cobb — have tried to copy its successful format. Wade even offered to appear on Delco’s version of the show, if he was ever invited.

He said the foundation of the unscripted show is to be open with viewers.

“We think accountability to the public, being transparent, is very important,” he said. “People look at shows like “CSI” and think that’s the way it is ... but law enforcement is really about having the trust of your community.”

As for any advice to McGinn, Wade said, “It will be his greatest tool. It will be his time to get out to the public what he’s been doing and what he needs from them.”

O’Berg said Delco is looking to work with other cable carriers, including Verizon and RCN, to pick up the program as well.
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Wait.. is Jim McGinn (from Aston) one of Joseph McGinn's 4 brothers? The same McGinn that screwed up Aston's water bills for years to come? The same McGinn that got pulled over for a DUI, went to the hospital and had a "heart attack" and never got charged with a DUI?
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Yes he is a brother. Don't know if HE screwed up water bills, somehow I doubt he did, but was involved in Aston during the sewer mess. And I believe he was charged with DUI, served his sentence, and moved on. As far as health, kind of in the forbidden zone for me.

I hope somone does look into whether or not Jim McGinn was given a pay check during the years that his brother was Sheriff and his company was paid by the County. That I would like to know.

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The more I am thinking about this situation, I believe people should DEMAND an investigation into what went on. The Delco DA should look into this issue as should the State Ethics Board. Not sure if anythig is criminial, but you never know. President of a company and his daughter gets tax money for duties that weren't bid out. That kind of pisses me off.

Will the Delco DA give a statement that they looked into this issue? Just give us a statement and make at least me feel better.
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Not only did McGinn get charged with a DUI, but I believe it was handled by the state attorney general's office due to his brother being the sheriff and other connections. I also think he lost his license for 30 days as he had a driver for a time. He also had to do public service which he did on a back hoe, front loader or something like that.
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Now thats funny, you lost your license and can't drive a car, but we are gonna let you drive a large dangerous piece of machinery...makes perfect sense to me. My uncle one time lost his license and they had him parking cars at a function. When he told the guy he didn't have a license the guy laughed and said neither do I!!!! again, makes sense to me...
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