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    Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    On Monday evening, March 26th, two black males attacked a fifty year old white man just a few miles from where Trayvon Martin was shot. Police say he was initially attacked while sitting in the driver seat of his car. He was then drug out of his car and into a wooded area. The perpetrators then beat him in the head with a hammer and left him for dead. They fled in the victims car, but abandoned the vehicle a short distance away. The family believes the victim was on his way home from work and stopped at a store before being attacked right outside the Sanford city lines.
    The Orlando Sentinel wrote about the attack and asked for people to call the police tip line. They published a description of the attackers from an eyewitness, but censored the race of the attackers from the description. They also censored the race of the victim, even though his race was listed in the police report. On April 2nd the Orlando Sentinel reported that the two suspects had been arrested. The paper published their mug shots, but once again censored the race of the victim.

    The Orlando Sentinel writer who wrote both articles says that the race of the victim was known to him but censored in the two articles on purpose. He cited the newspapers policy. He says that the paper "generally does not publish race unless there is a reason." The papers' website shows 396 Trayvon Martin articles. Race appears to be a major theme in most, if not all of them. Many of them mention race in the headline. To date, the Orlando Sentinel has never published the fact that the victim of the hammer attack was white.
    I managed to get in contact with a family member of the victim. They do not want his name given out, as they still fear for his safety. His injuries are severe and he is still in critical condition and now has pneumonia. 75% of his skull was damaged in the attack. The victim also has a broken arm, a broken hand, and a broken jaw. His family and friends ask that you please pray for his recovery.

    The family commends the Sanford police for quickly finding and arrested the suspects. However, they say the Sanford police are very reluctant to treat it as a hate crime.​
    At the same time the gruesome hammer attack took place, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the New Black Panther Party were all holding events in the area. This may have played a direct role in the near fatal attack. Tensions and fears of a riot were extremely high in Sanford that night.
    I have also linked one of the suspects to Florida's notorious Nation of Yahweh cult. Suspect Yahaziel Israel, 19, just got done serving a seventeen month prison sentence before the attack. His Hebrew name suggests that he is part of a "Black Hebrew" cult. It turns out that Israel has a Facebook page. On it, he identifies his father's Facebook page. His father has posting on Facebook promoting the Nation of Yahweh cult, the most notorious of all "Black Hebrew" groups. His father has an English name, but a girl identified by Yahaziel as his sister also has a Hebrew name. This suggests that Yahaziel was raised in the Black Power cult.
    This is the Black Power religious cult founded by Yahweh Ben Yahweh, whos members have committed at least fourteen murders and two attempted murders. The founder, Yahweh Ben Yahweh served eleven years in prison for his involvement in the murders.
    The group has an ideology similar to the Nation of Islam. Both believe that Sub-Saharan Africans are Gods' chosen people. Both believe that American blacks are special even among the black race. Both believe an apocalyptic race war is coming. It is probably fair to compare the Nation of Yahweh to the Nation of Islam splinter group, the Black Angels of Death. The Black Angels of Death were the perpetrators of the San Fransisco Bay area Zebra Killings. Both are believed to have carried out the murder of random white people as an initiation into the higher levels of the group.


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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    The victim should have been strapped....then two more black thugs could get bagged up.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    I guess I am going to hijack this thread just ever so slightly but something in the article strikes me as needing to be discussed IMO.

    Why do papers, strike that, why do media outlets chose to not publish race in crimes, especially when suspects are at large and public safety could be on the line. Wouldn't knowing that the suspects race is be helpful?

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Lantern View Post
    I guess I am going to hijack this thread just ever so slightly but something in the article strikes me as needing to be discussed IMO.

    Why do papers, strike that, why do media outlets chose to not publish race in crimes, especially when suspects are at large and public safety could be on the line. Wouldn't knowing that the suspects race is be helpful?
    PC.....there is always a pardon the pun "black out" on identifing suspects as black....on the othe hand if the suspect is white then they publish a picture....that way they have a fig leaf to hide behind, they can act as if they don't publish any race which is balderdash all the while it is about down playing black crime.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Lantern View Post
    I guess I am going to hijack this thread just ever so slightly but something in the article strikes me as needing to be discussed IMO.

    Why do papers, strike that, why do media outlets chose to not publish race in crimes, especially when suspects are at large and public safety could be on the line. Wouldn't knowing that the suspects race is be helpful?
    But it would be politically incorrect, and could be construed as profiling, or inciting race riots. Sarcasm... My personal favorite is where they give a description, eg. 5'9", brown hair, wearing black sunglasses, but don't tell you their nationality.
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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Where are the PC apologists now ?

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    then two more black thugs
    Your assertion is that Trayvon was a thug ?

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrthoStice View Post
    Your assertion is that Trayvon was a thug ?

    He was ( the operative word is was )

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    He was ( the operative word is was )
    There was one thug there that night. An armed thug looking for any black people who dared to enter his world. That thug pursued an unarmed teenager and shot him to death.

    That thug had a history of violence and a criminal record. That record is being added to, thanks to Trayvon Martin's faithful parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    There was one thug there that night. An armed thug looking for any black people who dared to enter his world. That thug pursued an unarmed teenager and shot him to death.
    Still singing that song I see, you are making some pretty bold assertions as to motive which you have not a shread of proof.



    That thug had a history of violence and a criminal record.

    You mean like drug use, possession of stolen property and poss of burglary tools ?


    That record is being added to, thanks to Trayvon Martin's faithful parents.
    Jeffery Dalhmer had parents too


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    Having someone down and beating them is text book thug......grilles notwithstanding

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    Having someone down and beating them is text book thug......grilles notwithstanding
    A thug hunting down an unarmed teen, then expecting that unarmed teenager not to defend himself is unreasonable.

    The unarmed teen was "standing his ground"

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    A thug hunting down an unarmed teen, then expecting that unarmed teenager not to defend himself is unreasonable.

    The unarmed teen was "standing his ground"
    Again you seem to have ZERO understanding of the most basic principals of law....educate your self lest you look foolish.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    Again you seem to have ZERO understanding of the most basic principals of law....educate your self lest you look foolish.
    Not according to lawyers all over the media.

    And talk about the issue only, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    A thug hunting down an unarmed teen, then expecting that unarmed teenager not to defend himself is unreasonable.

    The unarmed teen was "standing his ground"
    Zimmerman stated the Travon repeatedly beat his head against the concrete. If that's the case, then Zimmerman must have one seriously thick skull. Someone who takes a beating like that usually has a severe concussion. It could easily cause a TBI. It could cause a contra coux injury, where the brain slams to the front of the skull, then flies back and slams the back of the skull. IDK...it just seems to me that if he was beaten that severely, he would have been in a lot worse shape.
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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    Not according to lawyers all over the media.

    And talk about the issue only, please.
    You mean like Alan Dershowitz ? He called it just like it is......bullshit and political. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by reese View Post
    Zimmerman stated the Travon repeatedly beat his head against the concrete. If that's the case, then Zimmerman must have on seriously thick skull. Someone who takes a beating like that usually has a severe concussion. It could easily cause a TBI. It could cause a contra coux injury, where the brain slams to the front of the skull, then flies back and slams the back of the skull. IDK...it just seems to me that if he was beaten that severely, he would have been in a lot worse shape.
    Actual injury is non germane....the fear of great bodily injury is the legal standard.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    You mean like Alan Dershowitz ? He called it just like it is......bullshit and political. LOL
    You obviously didn't read what he wrote, or listen to what he said.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    You obviously didn't read what he wrote, or listen to what he said.
    Nice try.....of course I did, you do understand the concept of probable cause? The concept of standoff elements of a crime? The concept of the elements of self defense?

    BTW there is another thread that links to the 4 min plus interview with Dershowitz as he destroys the entire case......Oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Riggs View Post
    Nice try.....of course I did, you do understand the concept of probable cause? The concept of standoff elements of a crime? The concept of the elements of self defense?
    An attacker cannot claim self-defense. My bet: the court won't see it that way either.

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    Re: Was Sanford hammer beating a hate crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
    An attacker cannot claim self-defense. My bet: the court won't see it that way either.
    Attacker? Whatever, whomever was on top forfeited any right to self defense....That's the law and has been since the founding of this country. Get over it.

    But you know you have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker....I could really care less about either of them, what I do care about is making this a "racial" thing to stir up passions for political reasons, and all that can come from it is more violence and ultimately more deaths. This thread is about that very thing a man beat with a hammer over the race baiting and shit stirring it is bound to get worse and your "advocacy" of this little adventure puts blood on your hands as well. All this in an election cycle to help a worthless poser get re elected is nothing less that sick.

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